Well, there is an even further thought to this fine mess: Are the oats non-GMO? As, if we don't want GMO's inside our bodies, would we really want GMO's on the outside of our bodies either, where it gets inside your body by absorption? Talk about things getting complicated!!
Would it be possible to boil oats, blend, strain and dehydrate at home? Then you can process the dehydrated powder in a food processor. it seems like you'd be able to get a very silky, fine particle this way...
Hi Amy - You might get a fine powder to work with, but you still won't have colloidal oatmeal. Also, it sounds to me like the trouble, work and energy spent (electrical bill, etc) to acheive your product would cost more than buying colloidal oatmeal. For an easy, home method that will give you a fine silky powder, check my post called 'Colloidal oats - let's make our own".
Anonymous said…
Weird question, but would either the wet or dry method products be edible, if the ingredients listed are 100% oatmeal, nothing else?
Hi Anon - Interesting question! I would imagine the product is edible but I'm not sure I would be inclined to eat it. Awfully pricey way to ingest oats! :)
Anonymous said…
Thanks for the quick response! I'd like to add it to instant coconut milk powder for a healthy coffee creamer that doesnt taste too coconutty, I actually quite dislike coconut flavour! Would you like an update when I try it?
Hi Anon - I think if you want to use oats as a coffee creamer you would do fine with finely ground oats that are then sifted (check my earlier blogpost). I'm pretty sure this will be a less expensive option. If you do decide to use colloidal oatmeal, it might be a good idea to ask your supplier if it is suitable for consumption - just to be on the safe side. I'd love to hear an update if you try it!
I was pondering this exact thing when I stumbled across your article. I am a frugal shopper, but I am also a very adventurous cook. I shop at salvage stores. Usually the selection is amazing. Sometimes you find things you are not familiar with, but I buy and try. Awhile back I bought colloidal oatmeal. It closely resembled baby cereal..Was light and did not sink into warm water or milk. It tasted good and went well in the smoothies for my hubbys PEG tube. Plan to buy again if I ever see it. I think I could take fine ground whole oats and toast them a minute and use my mortar and pestal to come up with something similar. But for skin care maybe the baby cereal would work.
What about whole grain oat flour ? "Whole" gives the impression that the bran is still included Bob's Red Mill makes it and specifically mentions that it includes the bran, the germ and the endosperm. Arrowhead Mills makes organic whole oat flour and I assume that whole means whole but they don't go out of their way to spell that out like Bob. Anyway it seems to be the cheap, whole and lazy way to go so I'm giving one of them a go tonight for my itchy scalp. I'llcome back to say whether it was effective. Certainly cheaper than commercial lotions that contain 2 percent colloidal oatmeal and charge an additional 10 bucks to the price.
Hi Anna Christine - I'm pretty sure you can expect whole grain means whole grain. I hope you have a good outcome with your DIY idea - it probably will. :)
donna a said…
Oats are not GMO at this point but that does not mean the grower does not use pesticides on the plants. Many oat products contain trace particles of the pesticides the grower applied (Learned at the NOFA Conference this past summer) so it is always a good thing to chose organically grown so you are not being exposed to those nasty things!
I tried adding colloidal oatmeal to a DIY cream but it seemed to give it a slightly grainy texture. I assumed it would be so soft that you wouldn’t be able to feel it if you rubbed the cream between your fingers but I could feel the fine particles which didn’t feel nice when rubbed of the skin. Any ideas on how to combat this issue?
Hey there Anon - A grainy feeling could be due to a couple of things: too much was added or the oatmeal you used was oat flour and not colloidal oatmeal. Did the cream change texture other than the graininess? What were the other ingredients in your cream? It's a bit hard to pinpoint the exact cause without knowing more.
Well that was the kind of detail I LOVE! Lise you are amazing!! Based on that depth I am very interested in buying a couple of your ebooks! But can u please indulge me and tell me where u actually can buy the proper colloidal oatmeal to use for lotion crafting? I’d like to try it.
Hello Ursula - I am working on a post with information on this as we speak - Meantime, the best way to ensure you are getting the real deal is to contact your local cosmetics supplier and ask them if they can assure /document that they are selling real colloidal oatmeal and not oat flour. Best of luck!
Lise I’m looking at the basic body butter and melt and pour body butter ebooks. Can u please tell me the difference? I’m looking for a face balm and over all hand balm?
HI Ursula - If you check the descriptions, some of the e-books are stand-alone formulas from the book Working with Shea Butter. If you buy the shea butter book, you'll get all of the stand-alone formulas as well as a few extras. :)
HI Ursula - I'd recommend contacting the supplier regardless. It's always a good idea to have a personal contact you can get in touch with for product questions. :)
Hi LaPrairie Lady - Hydrolized oat protein could most definitely be used in creams, but it is also possible to get a lump-free product with colloidal oats if you stay within the recommended dosage. Fine ground oatmeal in soap sounds absolutely lovely!
With another way, if we add fine ground oat in water to make cream ?? we use hot water to make lotion or cream so, it become oat milk and we can filter this oat water through a sifter, you think ??
@LaPrairie Lady — I’d check with the manufacturer about this— there might me additional options or some limitations to this method. Alternatively you could try running a few of your own tests.
Anonymous said…
Hi Lise,
Thank you so much for your detailed explanation. If I can find a whole grain oat flour in supermarket, does it mean i am using oatmeal colloidal? I have just discovered this product and think of using this in my products.
Thanks so much for sharing! I love oatmeal colloidal so much but it's not easy to get it in my country. Recently I found a brand called Bob's Red Mill does have a product "whole grain oat flour". May I use it as oatmeal colloidal? as it should contains the brans & other benefits...
HI Unknown. You will not find colloidal oatmeal in supermarkets (at least not the ones I've visited). You'll need to buy this from a cosmetics ingredients supplier. :)
HI kelly K - Thanks for your question. I'm afraid milled oat flour is not the same as colloidal oats, but if it contains the bran then you are getting all the benefits. Nothing for it but to give it a try - but make SMALL batches and test. Best of luck!
Anonymous said…
Hi there,
Do you know which method "wet or dry way" is superior? Sometimes I feel like using water/steam could deplete some of those awesome nutrients. Thanks! Great post also, I appreciate your research and educating me. -Kay
Hey there Kay - Thanks for your comment! I am not sure either process is superior to the other. I do know the wet process is used by some of the folks who helped me with information for this post and also happen to be among the largest (if not THE largest) producer of oat products to the entire industry.
Oh my goodness what have i stumbled into? i was just looking to make a soap to help solve my itchy chihuahua and thought of adding oatmeal - will it need to be colloidal oatmeal for a soap ingredient do you think? anyone have a recipe for a soothing soap i can make?
Hey there Unknown - I'm sure I have seen many soaps with the addition of oats. I don't think you need to use colloidal for soap. You could use ground oats. There is a post on this blog that explains how. Enjoy!
Avena sativa is the same thing as old fashioned oats. When you google or research that inci name you also get quaket oats oatmeal. So long atory short over half the ingredients we formulate skincare with is edible or our bodies naturally produce it anyway . Colidol oats are the same thing as old fashioned bran otmeal finley grinded and then just sifted to get the powder. The powder is the same thing that suppliers are charging triple for. Research and science shows this just like aloe, green tea, etc.
HI Jdawgswife - Thanks for your comment. You are correct in that the source is the same, but the processing of it makes the difference. As I write in the article, if you can't get the particle size small enough WITH the bran, it looses the beneficial components and can't be incorporated into an emulsion without lumping. :)
Anonymous said…
Thank you, Lise! This is the best stuff for eczema, and I always wondered why it was so relatively pricy. Still worth it.
Hey there Anon — Thanks for your comment. It does help to understand the pricing when the process is explained in detail. I learned a lot while researching and writing this article. :)
Hi Lise Andersen ! Am so glad I came across your blog. I have the traditional whole oats at home and I find it a pain to cook them. So I decided to use them for my skincare. I have ground them as fine as I could at home in a processor. I intend to use the ground oats in face masks, scrubs and packs, DIY of course. I am not a formulator. So is it good enough for my purpose ? I may also use it a foot soak or a foot bath. I await your inputs :) Weena Pradhan
Hello Weena - thank you for your kind words. You can use our own finely ground oats for face masks and scrubs and foot soak without problem. Enjoy :)
Robin said…
I've been wondering about this for years as well! My approach is going to be something no one else has mentioned trying I believe. I am going to take quick oats since they are precooked and dry, and put them in a blender or food processor to try to get a fine colloidal powder. If that doesn't work well, I want to try the baby cereal (whole grain bnb if I can find it!) and blend it as well. Thanks for the onfo!
Hi Robin — you are a creative thinker! I wonder if the oats you are thinking of using have additives — do check the label. I’d live to hear how this turns out for you :)
I read your blog months ago when I bought aveeno and was wondering what colloidal oatmeal was- interesting read it was too :). Now that I have bought actual oatmeal and used it to soothe inflamed sensitive skin areas in a bath for the first time and found out useful, I wonder: does colloidal oatmeal have any benefits that ground or even whole oatmeal doesn't? For bath/face masks purposes.
I assume that because it's the bran that has the good stuff, there's no need to grind it, unless it's for practical purposes like using it in creams and other cosmetic applications, so that you arent applying clumps of oatmeal as moisturizer lol..
What do you think? Would love to get your thoughts! :)
HI Jackie - great question! If you are using oatmeal for bath, then whole oatmeal (where the bran is included) offers the same benefits as colloidal oatmeal. What makes colloidal oatmeal special is the particle size which allows it to remain suspended in a solution (lotion, cream etc) . You are right about the bran having all the good stuff, so if it is for a bath and you want to save on cleanup, put your whole oats into a nylon sock or muslin bag and tie shut, then toss the 'bag' in the bath and squeeze it a few times in the water to release the bran goodness :)
Flower said…
What a great post!! There's a fascinating YouTube channel by a dermatologist named Dr. Dray who said how colloidal oats are an underappreciated ingredient that the drugstore skincare brand Aveeno likes using. She buys the Aveeno colloidal oats packets, mixes with water, then dips a plain sheet mask in it. Optionally following that with a different plain mask I forget the name of that's firmer to I guess help the oats absorb more.
I'm excited reading this article and comments to learn that something like Bob's Red Mill whole oat flour can give the same benefits without needing to pay extra for the particle-shrinking process that makes whole oats so-called "colloidal!" And unless mixing oats into a lotion or cream, sounds like that flour is all that's needed! I haven't checked prices but imagine the flour is cheaper than say Aveeno powder.
I've been looking at my itchy, dry skin dog and thinking if there is a quicker and more travel-friendly way than baths or masks to get whole grain oats on him...and on me (dry, itchy skin). Like a toner or leave-in conditioner. Maybe fill a container with lukewarm water, put a mesh bag of whole grain oat flour or colloidal oats in it awhile, then spray or dab it on. Rinsing off if needed. May be messy though, hence why Dr. Dray used a sheet mask. I wonder what oat milk is...just oats soaked in water? Or I see why colloidal oats in a lotion or cream could be handy but I'm guessing you can't just mix them into your favorite moisturizer?
I'm also thinking about how to involve milk such as cruelty-free, organic, clean Greek yogurt...and honey...and turneric...along with the oats. A mask of course could do that. Maybe green tea involved too? Creative wheels spinning here.
Hey there Flower - thanks for your comment. Note that there is a difference between oat FLOUR and ground oats. The flour does not contain the bran and that's where all the good stuff is. It sounds like your creative wheels are definitely spinning and I foresee a bit of experimentation in your near future. Enjoy!
Hi there this is fascinating stuff. Much more complicated than i expected. My dear fried a U Tuber, broke her humerous/arm in three places. We both take medications for pain which dry our skin. Now LesleyAnne is unable to bathe. Would the Aveeno moisturizer be of help to her
Love this article. Very informative. I was going to grin. But obviously i would never be able to finely grind enough. Kindest regards Angela
Hi Angela , thanks for your kind words. Oh dear about the broken arm! I can't even begin to imagine how uncomfortable it must be. If you are able to bathe, you can use normal rolled oats - pop a handful into an old nylon sock, tie shut and pop the sock into the tub. Squeeze a few times when in the water -- this will provide just as much skin soothing as colloidal oats because rolled oats includes the bran. I don't know the moisturizer you mention (I have been making my own products so long I barely have the opportunity to try commercially made products). Hope this was of some help :)
Fanny said…
Hi! This is a great post! Do you recommend a specific online supplier that has been vetted and we know sells the correct product? This answer may already be in the comments and i haven’t gotten a Chance to sift through them all yet. Thanks!
HI Fanny - This is a great question – I have been trying to create a list but this is the kind of thing that takes a lot of time as many suppliers want to help out but have to do their own digging before they can even answer me back. Some don't answer back at all, so in short: I don't have a list and at this time am not able to give you an absolute-with-certainty answer. Sorry-- I am a little disappointed this kind of thing isn't getting more awareness but it's apparently not interesting enough to enough people.
Fanny said…
That is a shame. I guess there's a small subset of people who actually want to know that what they are getting is what they think they are getting. Thanks!
Ron said…
Glad to hear that oats are non-GM which I believe can be called "natural". Natural food usually receives pesticide sprays so you may want to make confirm that the oats are certified organic. Thank you all for your information. P.S. I'm searching for a recipe to cure / relieve my 1-year-old grandson's eczema. It is raw /red where he is scratching. Any help with soothing and or curing recipes is greatly appreciated. Thank you, (less The It would be a good idea
Hi Ron — Thanks for your comment. So sorry to hear your grandson is suffering so. I hope he is being seen to by a doctor. If it is acute and you are looking for some immediate temporary relief, the classic rolled oats (regular kind from a supermarket) in a sock or bag and dropped into the (tepid) bathwater helps relieve even the most sensitive and itchy skin. Squeeze the bag several times and leave it in the water while your grandson is bathing. Best of luck.
Anonymous said…
Thank you so much for your research and care! As a psoriasis and eczema sufferer, I hope this is helpful......
This was forwarded to me by a nutritionalist https://secretingredientsmovement.com/secret-ingredients-free-showing/?utm_expid=.NhpUJQgwS7mWotJ8sw9aTg.0&utm_referrer=
Thank you for your comment Anon. I did have a look at the links you sent and then did a bit more digging. At first glance this looks quite unsettling and I can see why you would be concerned.
When I am presented with information of this sort, I instinctively examine the source and then do some more digging from there. While a lot of other sites/blogs have parroted this 'information', it appears none of them have researched how factual or complete any of it is.
My impression is that this is a snippet of information taken out of context with the sole purpose of creating fear and doubt. In short; it is misinformation. Personally, I find this kind of behavior reprehensible - particularly when it is done with full deliberation (such as one sees from sites like the EWG).
Sorry for the speech/rant, but I felt you deserved a detailed answer. I realize it is incredibly difficult to know what to trust and who to believe sometimes, and we don't all have time to research EVERYTHING we read - me included. At any rate: thank you for bringing this to my attention.
Anonymous said…
Hi Lisa, If I grind up oat bran (just the bran) am I getting all the benefits? I'm looking at this one: https://www.bobsredmill.com/gluten-free-oat-bran.html Thanks in advance for answering my question. Alison
Hi Alison - what a fab question! If you can buy oat bran, then you are getting 100% all the good stuff right there - go for it! I had a look at the link and to me it looks like something worth giving a go. :)
Just a bit more insight into the non GMO Question. There are some smaller mills who grow their own grain and process it themselves. They are sometimes bio-dynaic farmers. There are oat grain seeds that are indeed organic never mind what you see on line. The bio-dynamic (usually European or Russian) farmers are the sources you need for this. They are all seriously passionate about the quality in food. The trouble with larger mills is the fungicides used in the storage facilities of the oat (and other) grains. I've seen what the amazing results are when animals are fed these organic bio-dynaic grains and it is just breath taking the difference. Check out your local Waldorf School or Kimberton Hills Farm (online) for more information of what is in your area. If there are any specific questions I may be reached at tashahunter@protonmail.com There is much to learn.
Hi Lisa))))thank you so much for your blog! I see many anhydrous products with colloidal oatmeal(like eczema salves)and I don't understand why?? If I am right it works magically only in emulsions? Can you explain it to me?))))
Hi Vera . Colloidal oatmeal is very soothing for sensitive and dry skin. It doesn't just work in emulsions. You can add oats to a bath and get wonderfully soothing and calming results. Put regular rolled oats into a nylon sock and tie it shut and pop it into a bath. Same effect. :)
Alia said…
Great post Lisa! How about balm or butter, can I add colloidal oatmeal? Since it soluble in water is it a must that colloidal oatmeal only works in water based skincare?
Hey there Alia - I suppose you could add colloidal oatmeal to an anhydrous solution, but I would probably tend to reach for oat kernel oil instead - it has fabulous properties. :)
Oh, wow, this is great. Your exhaustive research is impressive. Sometimes going down those rabbit holes can be very time consuming but having real answers is important. So, first, thank you. All of this information, including your answers to comments, is very useful, and you have professional /resources unavailable to many of us. I landed here by looking up hydrolyzed oats vs colloidal oatmeal, trying to determine if the oat milk I bought at the store would be soothing for my itchy cat. Ingredients list hydrolyzed oats, period. I soak oats in water often for its soothing properties, strain and keep in the fridge for a few days. None on hand, and remembered the carton of oat milk in the pantry. Yay, a quick fix and less messy. I might make some oat milk ice cubes. Thanks again, from Austin.
Hi Lisa, Great blog about the benefits of oatmeal baths. My eldest daughter had serious skin problems as a baby, oatmeal baths really helped her. I'm a farmer in Ireland and do hope to bring to the market organic colloidal oatmeal powder. Any help or tips would be much appreciated.
Thanks so much for your kind comment. I love that you want to bring an organic colloidal oatmeal to the market and wish you the very best of luck with it! Please feel to contact me again when you have your product ready. There's a contact page at LisaLise.com -- please refer to this blog post (to jog my memory) :D
Travis said…
Hi Lisa,
Is it possible to add colloidal oatmeal to below?: 1. Hydrosol 2. Pure lipid oil
So far I have only seen this to be used in lotion/cream.
HI Travis. You ask a very good question! I have mainly worked with colloidal oats in balms, lotions and emulsions. As it is a colloid it should be ok in very small amounts, but I'm thinking it might create a cloudiness in a hydrosol. As for adding to oil, it's not going to dissolve and will need careful dispersion. If you give it a go I'd love to hear how it turns out for you.
I am a semi-professional formulator, as in I formulate products for sale. I am looking to add colloidal oatmeal to an emulsion. We all know that oats is one of the worlds most perfect foods. This holds true for mankind, animal kind, and of course microbe kind. Your article did not touch on the difficulties incurred with preserving this kind of microbe food into an emulsion. In the process of gathering your data, did you come up with any preservation techniques that did not involve parabens or Formaldehyde Releasers? All the professional chemist I have communicated with said that was the only way to preserve this 'perfect food'.
Sidebar: The finest grind I have found is at: https://www.makeyourown.buzz/colloidal-oatmeal/ 33 micron.
Hi Doug - Great question. The short answer is yes, it is possible, but the long answer contains a whole lot of 'it depends'. It depends on the formula and other ingredients and even packaging can factor in. Colloidal oatmeal can definitely be added to an emulsion and preserved as you describe. Try doing an online search for products containing colloidal oats and check the ingredients list for the preservatives they are using. I know there are 'green' companies making and selling products with colloidal oatmeal that have properly preserved formulations. It might be a good starting point as you will get an idea of what others are using. Best of luck with it :)
Thanks for this article; very interesting! I've been wanting to add oats to my soap recipe and found one that suggested adding Colloidal oatmeal. I think I'm just going to add ground oats and Rice Bran oil as there doesn't seem much point to spend out on something ground fine when I want the texture? Also, we were always told as kinds to cook our veg minimally as the vitamins are destroyed through boiling...so the point that they are boiled perplexes me. What are your thoughts on this please?
HI Tracy - Adding ground oats to soap has been done for many years and does - like you say - provide a great texture. The boiling of the oatmeal to achieve colloidal oats is part of the extraction process.
Hello LisaLise, I'd just like to say thank you so much for this post. I have a tendency to get hives in the summer, and so I was looking for the ingredients to have a bath with. I came across this article, and now know I can just use my rolled outs in my pantry in a stocking and pop it into a tub with warm water, thank you SO much! This will save me so much money this summer. Thanks from Micky in New Zealand!
Hey there Micky - Thanks so much for your kind words. I love the 'bath socks' idea :)
Tessy said…
Hey Lisa!
I plan on making some balms and wanted to test out two methods 1) making an oatmeal extract with glycerine 2) finely grinding the oatmeal and slowly dispersing it in the oil
Do I have to use a preservative if I add the glycerine extract as the only hydrous ingredient in an otherwise anhydrous balm? I.e. all oils except the glycerine extract with constant mixing etc? Hope that makes sense 🙂
HI Tessy - Your ideas sound interesting. Without knowing the proportions, it's hard to answer you about a preservative. My book on making Glycerites has calculation charts for self preserving as well as glycerites with added preservatives -- if you have the book, check the guidelines there. :)
Hello LisaLise! I'm more than thrilled to have found this post as I was really struggling to understand exactly what you so thoughtfully researched and explained. Question for you - if the actives are contained in oat bran, could colloidal oatmeal be made from 100% bran assuming the necessary particle size could be achieved commercially?
Hi Unknown - Thanks so much for your kind words. As the bran is where the good stuff is, I would expect colloidal oatmeal made purely from the bran would be even more full of actives.
Anonymous said…
Hi Lisa, your article is very informative, I have a question, by any chance do you have a list of Colloidal Oatmeal manufacturers in the US?
This is very helpful article - thank you. I go back to this every once in a while when I get confused with different terms and need to check something. I happened to find whole grain oat flour that contains the bran too (apparently it is quite common here in Finland). It apparently has the same fiber content than some of our rolled oats/ oat flakes. Love the fact that I don't have to process rolled oats by myself. I'm doing some reading and playing with different type of oats.
I’m curious if you’ve ever considered using an infant oatmeal, what would the difference be between how finely its ground for babies and colloidal oatmeal? Thanks
HI Unknown -- what a great question! I haven't ever looked into this but I imagine it could work if you check the ingredients label-- the contents should be only oatmeal -- no additives at all.
Nessa said…
I was calling around locating Maggie Ghanem, I saw she wa mentioned here but I called the number from the link and said she retired? anyone know where she is Thought she owned Formulator sample shop
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Are the oats non-GMO?
As, if we don't want GMO's inside our bodies, would we really want GMO's on the outside of our bodies either, where it gets inside your body by absorption?
Talk about things getting complicated!!
@Rebekah - Thank you kindly!
Bob's Red Mill makes it and specifically mentions that it includes the bran, the germ and the endosperm. Arrowhead Mills makes organic whole oat flour and I assume that whole means whole but they don't go out of their way to spell that out like Bob.
Anyway it seems to be the cheap, whole and lazy way to go so I'm giving one of them a go tonight for my itchy scalp. I'llcome back to say whether it was effective. Certainly cheaper than commercial lotions that contain 2 percent colloidal oatmeal and charge an additional 10 bucks to the price.
Best,
Ursula
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Ursula
Thank you so much for your detailed explanation. If I can find a whole grain oat flour in supermarket, does it mean i am using oatmeal colloidal? I have just discovered this product and think of using this in my products.
https://hk.iherb.com/pr/Bob-s-Red-Mill-Whole-Grain-Oat-Flour-22-oz-623-g/9351#questions-and-answers
Thanks and regards,
Po
Thanks so much for sharing! I love oatmeal colloidal so much but it's not easy to get it in my country. Recently I found a brand called Bob's Red Mill does have a product "whole grain oat flour". May I use it as oatmeal colloidal? as it should contains the brans & other benefits...
Thank you so much.
best,
Kelly K
Do you know which method "wet or dry way" is superior? Sometimes I feel like using water/steam could deplete some of those awesome nutrients. Thanks! Great post also, I appreciate your research and educating me.
-Kay
Weena Pradhan
I read your blog months ago when I bought aveeno and was wondering what colloidal oatmeal was- interesting read it was too :). Now that I have bought actual oatmeal and used it to soothe inflamed sensitive skin areas in a bath for the first time and found out useful, I wonder: does colloidal oatmeal have any benefits that ground or even whole oatmeal doesn't? For bath/face masks purposes.
I assume that because it's the bran that has the good stuff, there's no need to grind it, unless it's for practical purposes like using it in creams and other cosmetic applications, so that you arent applying clumps of oatmeal as moisturizer lol..
What do you think? Would love to get your thoughts! :)
I'm excited reading this article and comments to learn that something like Bob's Red Mill whole oat flour can give the same benefits without needing to pay extra for the particle-shrinking process that makes whole oats so-called "colloidal!" And unless mixing oats into a lotion or cream, sounds like that flour is all that's needed! I haven't checked prices but imagine the flour is cheaper than say Aveeno powder.
I've been looking at my itchy, dry skin dog and thinking if there is a quicker and more travel-friendly way than baths or masks to get whole grain oats on him...and on me (dry, itchy skin). Like a toner or leave-in conditioner. Maybe fill a container with lukewarm water, put a mesh bag of whole grain oat flour or colloidal oats in it awhile, then spray or dab it on. Rinsing off if needed. May be messy though, hence why Dr. Dray used a sheet mask. I wonder what oat milk is...just oats soaked in water? Or I see why colloidal oats in a lotion or cream could be handy but I'm guessing you can't just mix them into your favorite moisturizer?
I'm also thinking about how to involve milk such as cruelty-free, organic, clean Greek yogurt...and honey...and turneric...along with the oats. A mask of course could do that. Maybe green tea involved too? Creative wheels spinning here.
Love this article. Very informative. I was going to grin. But obviously i would never be able to finely grind enough. Kindest regards Angela
Chance to sift through them all yet. Thanks!
Thank you all for your information.
P.S. I'm searching for a recipe to cure / relieve my 1-year-old grandson's eczema. It is raw /red where he is scratching. Any help with soothing and or curing recipes is greatly appreciated. Thank you,
(less The It would be a good idea
https://qz.com/1357690/a-weedkiller-chemical-was-found-in-quaker-oats-and-cheerios/
This was forwarded to me by a nutritionalist https://secretingredientsmovement.com/secret-ingredients-free-showing/?utm_expid=.NhpUJQgwS7mWotJ8sw9aTg.0&utm_referrer=
When I am presented with information of this sort, I instinctively examine the source and then do some more digging from there. While a lot of other sites/blogs have parroted this 'information', it appears none of them have researched how factual or complete any of it is.
My impression is that this is a snippet of information taken out of context with the sole purpose of creating fear and doubt. In short; it is misinformation. Personally, I find this kind of behavior reprehensible - particularly when it is done with full deliberation (such as one sees from sites like the EWG).
Sorry for the speech/rant, but I felt you deserved a detailed answer. I realize it is incredibly difficult to know what to trust and who to believe sometimes, and we don't all have time to research EVERYTHING we read - me included. At any rate: thank you for bringing this to my attention.
If I grind up oat bran (just the bran) am I getting all the benefits? I'm looking at this one: https://www.bobsredmill.com/gluten-free-oat-bran.html
Thanks in advance for answering my question.
Alison
There are some smaller mills who grow their own grain and process it themselves.
They are sometimes bio-dynaic farmers.
There are oat grain seeds that are indeed organic never mind what you see on line.
The bio-dynamic (usually European or Russian) farmers are the sources you need for this. They are all seriously passionate about the quality in food.
The trouble with larger mills is the fungicides used in the storage facilities of the oat (and other) grains.
I've seen what the amazing results are when animals are fed these organic bio-dynaic grains and it is just breath taking the difference.
Check out your local Waldorf School or Kimberton Hills Farm (online) for more information of what is in your area.
If there are any specific questions I may be reached at tashahunter@protonmail.com
There is much to learn.
I see many anhydrous products with colloidal oatmeal(like eczema salves)and I don't understand why?? If I am right it works magically only in emulsions? Can you explain it to me?))))
Best regards,Vera
I landed here by looking up hydrolyzed oats vs colloidal oatmeal, trying to determine if the oat milk I bought at the store would be soothing for my itchy cat. Ingredients list hydrolyzed oats, period. I soak oats in water often for its soothing properties, strain and keep in the fridge for a few days. None on hand, and remembered the carton of oat milk in the pantry. Yay, a quick fix and less messy. I might make some oat milk ice cubes. Thanks again, from Austin.
Great blog about the benefits of oatmeal baths.
My eldest daughter had serious skin problems as a baby, oatmeal baths really helped her.
I'm a farmer in Ireland and do hope to bring to the market organic colloidal oatmeal powder. Any help or tips would be much appreciated.
Thanking you,
Paul
Thanks so much for your kind comment. I love that you want to bring an organic colloidal oatmeal to the market and wish you the very best of luck with it! Please feel to contact me again when you have your product ready. There's a contact page at LisaLise.com -- please refer to this blog post (to jog my memory) :D
Is it possible to add colloidal oatmeal to below?:
1. Hydrosol
2. Pure lipid oil
So far I have only seen this to be used in lotion/cream.
Sidebar: The finest grind I have found is at: https://www.makeyourown.buzz/colloidal-oatmeal/
33 micron.
Graillotion
I think I'm just going to add ground oats and Rice Bran oil as there doesn't seem much point to spend out on something ground fine when I want the texture?
Also, we were always told as kinds to cook our veg minimally as the vitamins are destroyed through boiling...so the point that they are boiled perplexes me. What are your thoughts on this please?
I plan on making some balms and wanted to test out two methods
1) making an oatmeal extract with glycerine
2) finely grinding the oatmeal and slowly dispersing it in the oil
Do I have to use a preservative if I add the glycerine extract as the only hydrous ingredient in an otherwise anhydrous balm? I.e. all oils except the glycerine extract with constant mixing etc? Hope that makes sense 🙂
Thanks
That's not true.
Thought she owned Formulator sample shop
You could be correct — this post is from 2017 so it’s quite possible Maggie Ghanem has retired — thanks for bringing it to my attention