Hi Signe - I have been using them in skin tonics, lotions, creams, bath products... lots of stuff! :D
HI Kath - I may just have to post a few glycerite using ideas in an upcoming post-- several folks have asked :)
Tannu said…
Hi, making glycerite sounds lovely.. i am wondering what is the shelf life of it and if there is any other paraban free preservative that will work here?
Hi Tannu - you touch on a very interesting thing that I have been researching lately - the preservative power of glycerine with fresh food glycerites and whether or not a preservative is even necessary. The shelf life is dependant upon what is added, so I'm afraid you are getting a non-answer from me on this one. With dried herbs, a glycerite is generally made with no added preservative and has a shelf life of approx 6 months (although you will find some who say they last up to 2 years -- again - dependant on what is added. I have upcoming posts on this very subject.
May I ask why you are looking for paraben free?
Tannu said…
Hi Lise, thanks for replying, I was reading that to make glycerite it's recommended to first soak dry herbs in water... is it possible to make a glycerite without water and directly adding dry herbs? I am going to try that soon. Paraban free is what my customers are looking for. I have loads of people ask me exclusively that they want paraban free. And if there is an option I would prefer that as well. I mainly use optiphen plus for my skincare range. I actually love herbs infusions but always hesitant towards fresh fruits and using herb infusions too due to their hard to preserve nature, made an amazing rose water face cream which had the most beautiful pink tint but it turned brownish in few weeks which was little unpleasant as if i sell them fresh i don't want customers to think its molding because its changing color.
Hi Tannu - You need the water in these extracts as glycerine will not function well enough to extract the water-soluble components of the added material by itself.
Thanks for answering about the parabens. It is a common thing that people ask for paraben free and this is truly a pity. An entire group of preservatives has had to suffer under scare campaigns that started because of 2 parabens that came under suspicion for being endocrine disruptors. These 2 were pulled from the market in 2009 and to my knowledge are no longer even available.The others were also put under new testing, and one one were again released. Every paraben preservative on the market today is throughly tested and approved. Parabens are among the safest preservatives and also have the longest track record of use (and testing). Sorry for 'preaching' at you, but I find it truly sad that misinformation about these preservatives has been allowed to take hold in the way it has. We are not only cheating our customers out of tried and tested ingredients, but by dismissing parabens, we are also allowing scare tactics and fearmongering to dictate how we make our products. It's just not fair - to anyone!
That said, if you are not happy using benzyl alcohol, you might try a 'cocktail' mix such as Cosguard. If you are use hydrosols instead of infusions, you won't experience the same color change problem, but you will need adequate broad spectrum preservation, where I can recommend both cosguard (a 'cocktail' mix that includes ebenzyl alcohol) and phenonip (which does contain parabens). Best of luck with it. :)
Tannu said…
Hi Lise, Again thanks for replying :) you have raised some good points here. I have no issues with benzyl alcohol, just couldn't find it at my usual suppliers :) i have to look a little harder With parabans, i really have no issue with them, but there were few reasons I opted to choose not to use them, one there is so much misinformation that initially i got overwhelmed and tried to stay away from something i wasnt sure y i am using it. I found optiphen plus and germall plus as good alternates for most of the stuff i was making. Then realised customers didn't wanted them too and lots of them specifically ask if i have parabans free products. I honestly didn't got too much chance of reading parabans and reaching on a conclusion. I am not against preservatives or unnatural alternates if they are safe to use but because other options were doing just fine I never came back on parabans topic.
Glycerine extracts are so versatile! Possibilities are endless, but what I love the most is that you can make a glycerite of (almost) any vegetable and fruit you want when they are just in perfect ripeness, bursting with actives! What about this blueberry extract mixed with a wee bit of strawberry extract and cassis hydrolat? In my opinion that would make a lovely toner or micellar water for summer ;) @Tannu, I hope Lise doesn't mind I put this link, but I know a supplier in Australia, New Direction Automatics (http://shop.newdirections.com.au), they also have store for UK and Canada and I've heard good reviews. On eBay also there is an Australian eBay store that seems to be good according to reviews I've seen, but now I don't remember the name, I can look for it if you're interested
Hi, where in the world do you find benzyl alcohol? I have been searching high and low for it, and can not find it anywhere!! :( I asked on one of the facebook groups I am in, and only got one reply, saying that benzyl alcohol will make the products smell like almonds, but they couldn't tell me where to get it. Soooo that being said, have you noticed the almond scent too? and where can I find this? Thank you Lise!
Hi Philippa - I buy it from my Danish supplier Urtegaarden ( they ship all over), but you might try Cosguard which contains benzyl alcohol, and yes, it has a very marzipan- like scent which dissapates in some mixtures. It was completely overtaken by the cucumbers and blueberries in my 2 glycerites with those. There is also an Aussie supplier of benzyl alcohol -- Australian wholesale oils is the name I think. :)
Hi Tannu, I found the eBay store I was talking about: they're called Sanctuary supplies and are based in Australia: http://stores.ebay.com.au/Sanctuary-Supplies I hope you can find what you need :)
Hi Lisa, Good day! I am making this lovely blurberries glycerite after reading your post. Question that i have is about viscosity. Will it becomes lower the second day? As usually Glycerine is abit higher viscosity but when i tried to agitate the jar in the second day, it has a lower viscosity then the first day. Thanks!
Wondering if you've tried this with frozen blueberries??
I'm wanna give it a try, but was wondering if I should leave the proportions the same, or reduce the blueberry content due to a higher water/juice content in the frozen blueberries. Plus the freezer already started breaking down the blueberry I feel like I could get something interesting in less time than 6 days, I'm thinking 24 hours and a quick spin in the blender before straining.
Would love to read your thoughts on my lazy herbalist method, have you tried with frozen fruit??
Hello Genevieve - you can indeed use frozen fruits but as for speeding up infusion time this will have to be a judgement call. My usual reply to people who want to speed up the process is “you can’t rush excellence”. :)
Hello Lise! I would love to make a green tea glycerite...should I hydrate the tea leaves before infusion? If so what should be the proportions? Will be grateful for guidance.
HI Jyoti - My book 'The Art of Making Glycerites for Cosmetics' has calculation charts for making glycerites with all kinds of materials. If you visit the shop at LisaLise.com you can read more about what's included :)
Anonymous said…
Hello, Love your blog! I am trying to recreate a leave in blueberry conditioner I love. I am new to making glycerites, but blueberry extract has proven hard to find! I just wanted to double check that this is a shelf stable product and if it would be good to use for a leave in hair product?
Hey there Anon - Ooh blueberry conditioner sounds amazing! If you follow proper GMP, your glycerites will be as shelf stable as commercially made extracts. If you pop over to my main site LisaLise.com, you'll find an E-book called The Art of Making Glycerites for Cosmetics that walks you through the entire process. :)
Geetha said…
Hi Lise that's a great info indeed I wish to try watermelon glycerite is that possible as it has 92-96% water. Can I make 50:50ratio even for the glycerine to fruit. Can I use preservative eco for the preservation will it be good to use on.
HI Geetha - You might consider checking out my book The Art of Making Glycerites (there's a link at the bottom of this post) as it answers all of your questions and includes calculation charts for all kinds of raw materials - both with preservative added and as self-preserving. Preservative ECO with the INCI: "benzyl alcohol, salicylic acid, glycerine and sorbic acid" is a broad spectrum preservative and can be used but be mindful of recommended dosages-- check with your supplier.
Hi there! I'm new here and I'm an herbalist who was taught how to make herbal extracts with glycerine as an alternative to alcohol tinctures. Now I'm teaching myself how to formulate and was curious about using herbal and/or fruit glycerites in my recipes but wondering how to preserve them naturally. I've read through the comments and see your stance on parabens. I respectfully disagree and would like to personally avoid them in my products. What are your thoughts on preserving glycerites with alcohol? Let's say 190 proof grain or sugar cane alcohol to be more specific. This is a method I learned in herb school but I'm wondering what effect the alcohol would have on a skincare formula and at what percentage I'd use. Maybe you don't have the exact answers for this but I'd love at least your opinion! Thinking of purchasing your glycerites e-book as well..
HI Mandi - thanks for your comment. Glycerites can be made so they are completely self preserving. I wrote a book about this (there's a link at the bottom of the post). I would be hesitant about adding alcohol as a preservative to a glycerite. If you do a search on this blog for lemongrass glycerite - that one is self preserving. :)
Hi Jennifer - yes indeed - rinse the blueberries i distilled water.
Anonymous said…
Hi, I have a question on using glycerites in facial care...A lot of herbs are Ph sensitive and due to that they shift color (beetroot turns brown) would this not happen when i put beetrootpowder in glycerite and then use it in my products? Or does this remain the same...
H Anon - you are absolutely correct about the colorants of many herbs being pH sensitive. There is no easy answer to this - expect to do a lot of experimenting. Beetroot is particularly difficult-- do a search on this blog about beetroot as a colorant. I did a post about this exact subject :)
Hello! Do you have any suggestions for making a glycerite out of the leaves of the blueberry bush? Or any ideas if the green leaves are good to work with, or if it is better to harvest the leaves when they turn orange and red here in Vermont in the fall? Supposedly, the leaves contain more nutrients than the berries do. Thank you so much! Wendy
Thanks for your comment! I am fascinated to hear the leaves are said to carry more nutrients than the berries! I would pick fresh leaves if I were doing a glycerite with the leaves. Crush or chop them just before use. Best of luck with it!
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HI Kath - I may just have to post a few glycerite using ideas in an upcoming post-- several folks have asked :)
May I ask why you are looking for paraben free?
Paraban free is what my customers are looking for. I have loads of people ask me exclusively that they want paraban free. And if there is an option I would prefer that as well. I mainly use optiphen plus for my skincare range.
I actually love herbs infusions but always hesitant towards fresh fruits and using herb infusions too due to their hard to preserve nature, made an amazing rose water face cream which had the most beautiful pink tint but it turned brownish in few weeks which was little unpleasant as if i sell them fresh i don't want customers to think its molding because its changing color.
Thanks for answering about the parabens. It is a common thing that people ask for paraben free and this is truly a pity. An entire group of preservatives has had to suffer under scare campaigns that started because of 2 parabens that came under suspicion for being endocrine disruptors. These 2 were pulled from the market in 2009 and to my knowledge are no longer even available.The others were also put under new testing, and one one were again released. Every paraben preservative on the market today is throughly tested and approved. Parabens are among the safest preservatives and also have the longest track record of use (and testing). Sorry for 'preaching' at you, but I find it truly sad that misinformation about these preservatives has been allowed to take hold in the way it has. We are not only cheating our customers out of tried and tested ingredients, but by dismissing parabens, we are also allowing scare tactics and fearmongering to dictate how we make our products. It's just not fair - to anyone!
That said, if you are not happy using benzyl alcohol, you might try a 'cocktail' mix such as Cosguard. If you are use hydrosols instead of infusions, you won't experience the same color change problem, but you will need adequate broad spectrum preservation, where I can recommend both cosguard (a 'cocktail' mix that includes ebenzyl alcohol) and phenonip (which does contain parabens). Best of luck with it. :)
I have no issues with benzyl alcohol, just couldn't find it at my usual suppliers :) i have to look a little harder
With parabans, i really have no issue with them, but there were few reasons I opted to choose not to use them, one there is so much misinformation that initially i got overwhelmed and tried to stay away from something i wasnt sure y i am using it. I found optiphen plus and germall plus as good alternates for most of the stuff i was making. Then realised customers didn't wanted them too and lots of them specifically ask if i have parabans free products. I honestly didn't got too much chance of reading parabans and reaching on a conclusion. I am not against preservatives or unnatural alternates if they are safe to use but because other options were doing just fine I never came back on parabans topic.
What about this blueberry extract mixed with a wee bit of strawberry extract and cassis hydrolat?
In my opinion that would make a lovely toner or micellar water for summer ;)
@Tannu, I hope Lise doesn't mind I put this link, but I know a supplier in Australia, New Direction Automatics (http://shop.newdirections.com.au), they also have store for UK and Canada and I've heard good reviews. On eBay also there is an Australian eBay store that seems to be good according to reviews I've seen, but now I don't remember the name, I can look for it if you're interested
Soooo that being said, have you noticed the almond scent too? and where can I find this? Thank you Lise!
-Philippa :)
I hope you can find what you need :)
Question that i have is about viscosity. Will it becomes lower the second day? As usually Glycerine is abit higher viscosity but when i tried to agitate the jar in the second day, it has a lower viscosity then the first day.
Thanks!
TIA
Wondering if you've tried this with frozen blueberries??
I'm wanna give it a try, but was wondering if I should leave the proportions the same, or reduce the blueberry content due to a higher water/juice content in the frozen blueberries. Plus the freezer already started breaking down the blueberry I feel like I could get something interesting in less time than 6 days, I'm thinking 24 hours and a quick spin in the blender before straining.
Would love to read your thoughts on my lazy herbalist method, have you tried with frozen fruit??
infusion time this will have to be a judgement call. My usual reply to people who want to speed up the process is “you can’t rush excellence”. :)
You might consider checking out my book The Art of Making Glycerites (there's a link at the bottom of this post) as it answers all of your questions and includes calculation charts for all kinds of raw materials - both with preservative added and as self-preserving. Preservative ECO with the INCI: "benzyl alcohol, salicylic acid, glycerine and sorbic acid" is a broad spectrum preservative and can be used but be mindful of recommended dosages-- check with your supplier.
Do you have any suggestions for making a glycerite out of the leaves of the blueberry bush? Or any ideas if the green leaves are good to work with, or if it is better to harvest the leaves when they turn orange and red here in Vermont in the fall? Supposedly, the leaves contain more nutrients than the berries do. Thank you so much!
Wendy
Thanks for your comment! I am fascinated to hear the leaves are said to carry more nutrients than the berries! I would pick fresh leaves if I were doing a glycerite with the leaves. Crush or chop them just before use. Best of luck with it!